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Post by Requiem » 2010 10 01 6:50 pm

Čia dedam viską, kas susije su Calciopoli skandalu.
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Re: Calciopoli

Post by Requiem » 2010 10 01 6:53 pm

Letter by the President to the supporters

Dear supporters,

This first part of the season has often been accompanied by controversy, opinions and in some cases proper attacks on Juventus and its history. In a few hours time the curtain will rise on a match which has always played an important part in the history of football. It is a history for us Juventini made of passion and very often victories which were always achieved with merit on the field.

The chit chat of recent months contributed to the raising of voices, often mixing the roles. It is time to think of the present.

It is a time in which the shareholders and the management are on the one side busy safeguarding and defending the club’s colours everywhere, with the right instruments and in the most correct and transparent way, and on the other hand are concentrating everyday in order to put the players in a condition to offer a performance of a level which suits Juventus.

It is a time in which the supporters, with a sense of responsibility higher than that of certain managers, are supporting their team even in difficult moments, without falling to useless exaggerations and violence that would stain the joint effort of all those who have Juventus at heart: footballers, coaches, directors, employees and millions of supporters.

It is a time which has lasted 113 years and which will continue even after these 90 minutes during which we will have to be loyal supporters in order to get back to our work: Juventus will continue to do so in all the competent places so as to assure that the reasons of everyone are heard and evaluated with dignity.

Forza Juve
Andrea Agnelli
Manau neverta šio laiško verst. Nieko naujo ar negirdėto Agnelli nepasakė.

Prezidentas pasakė, jog laukia svarbios ir reikšmingos rungtynės su Inter. Taip pat klubas kovoja dėl prarastų Scudetto. Agnelli prašo, kad fanai palaikytų komandą, nes reikia laiko (kažin kelintą kartą rašau tai?) sustyguoti žaidimui.
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Re: Calciopoli

Post by Requiem » 2010 10 01 6:56 pm

Šiandien Colina davė parodymus teisme dėl Calciopoli ir pasakė, jog jo niekas nebandė paveikti. Taip Mogius ruošiasi puolimui :up:
Pierluigi Collina has appeared as a witness at the Calciopoli trial in Naples, which opened again for another session today.

The former referee, who was the most famous in world football until his recent retirement, was asked if he had any prior knowledge of the scandal.

“I never received pressure to influence the outcome of games,” Collina said.

Juventus' former director general Luciano Moggi is expected to present nearly 120 wiretaps in his defence.

FIGC President Giancarlo Abete will also be heard this afternoon.

There is also speculation that Moggi's defence team wants England general manager Franco Baldini to take the stand.
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Re: Calciopoli

Post by Requiem » 2010 10 02 5:32 pm

Na ką, pasibaigė dar vienas posėdis Calciopoli teisme. Moggi atsitempė Franco Baldini liudyti teisme. Baldinis buvo sporto direktorius Romos klube Calciopoli metais.

Teisme buvo išklausytas pokalbis, kuriame Interiaus tuometinis prezidentas Facchetti prašė teisėjų skyrėjo (designator - nežinau kaip tiksliau versti) Paolo Bergamo paskirti Collina teisėjauti.

Prieš tai Collina teisme buvo pareiškęs, jog nesusilaukė jokio spaudimo iš klubų.

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Luciano Moggi had to be restrained from a coming-together with England general manager Franco Baldini at the Calciopoli trial.

Baldini was called to testify due to his time as director of sport at Roma during the period covered by the trial in Naples.

There was tension in the courtroom when Baldini referred to Moggi as “a man without quality.”

Moggi was furious and stood up, then had to be restrained by his lawyers from walking over to confront him.

The pair almost had another altercation during the early stages of the trial, but on that occasion it was in the corridor of the court house.

The court also heard more of the new wiretaps that have come to light and threaten to change the status of the 2006 Scudetto.

It was revoked from Juventus and handed to Inter as part of the original Calciopoli sporting trial, but the Bianconeri want it taken away from the Nerazzurri.

The wiretap was a phone call between former Inter President Giacinto Facchetti and former refereeing designator Paolo Bergamo.

“Put Collina in there,” was the incriminated phrase from Facchetti.
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Re: Calciopoli

Post by Pinturicchio » 2010 10 02 5:41 pm

Gera dejo baldini “a man without quality” :lol: Laukiam laukiam savo scudetto atgal :jee: Kad ta kurvos vaika, moratti, pasodintu. Is snukio matosi, kad zulikas
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Post by Powis » 2010 10 02 9:05 pm

Ibrahimovicius, Del Piero, Ledesma, Nesta, Seedorfas, Frey'us, teisėjai Tagliavento, Rosetti ir dar kiti liūdys kitame teisme.

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Re: Calciopoli

Post by Pinturicchio » 2010 10 02 9:21 pm

Kokia data posedzio kito?
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Re: Calciopoli

Post by Powis » 2010 10 02 9:32 pm

[quote=""Pinturicchio""]Kokia data posedzio kito?[/quote]

Nežinau.. :roll:

tuo tarpu Moggi atvirai pasisakė ką mano apie dabartinę situaciją.
"Juventus needs to give back titles? What titles? The titles that Juve won on the pitch while Inter was busy discussing Recoba's fake passport? Or those of the years when in order to find Inter's name you had to scroll down the Serie A table and use a calculator to add the points with at least another team' in order to equal Juve's point total? Let's not joke around, there's only one fake, cardboard scudetto-the one automatically assigned to Inter by the FIGC."

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Re: Calciopoli

Post by Requiem » 2010 10 20 5:51 pm

Mūsų kapitonas davė parodymus. Kaip suprantu paskutiniai žaidėjų liudyjimai buvo apie įvarias rungtynes, kur "Juventus" neva paveikė teisėjus. Visi žaidėjai pripažino, jog nieko panašaus nepastebėjo. Bent aš taip suvokiu.

Taip išeina, kad Moggiaus advokatų taktiką yra per naujo išnagrinėti visas rungtynes, dėl kurių Juvė atsidūrė Serie B, ir įrodyti, kad ten nieko nebuvo. O kartu su naujais pokalbių įrašais galutinai parodyti, kokie visi nekalti buvo. Bent aš taip suvokiu.
Vakar Neapolio teisme Alessandro Del Piero davė parodymus atsinaujinusioje Calciopoli byloje. "Juventus" kapitoną pakvietė Luciano Moggi gynyba.

"Daugiau nei 16 metų žaidžiu už "Juvę". Kiek trofėjų laimėjau? Vieni nori man įrodyti, jog 15, bet į viršų buvau iškėlęs 17", - pradėjo kapitonas.

Moggi advokatas paklausė Del Piero nuomonės apie neva ginčytinas rungtynes su "Lecce", kurios įvyko 2004 lapkričio 14 d.

"Prisimenu, kad įmušiau tose rungtynėse. Buvo sudėtinga žaisti, nes aikštės būklė buvo prasta. Prieš rungtynių pradžią De Santis (rungtynių teisėjas) patikrino aikštės dangą ir, pamenu, po to mes kalbėjomės apie tai".

"Aš maniau, kad žaisti galima. Prieš rungtynių pradžią aš ir "Lecce" komandos kapitonas kalbėjomės su teisėju. Nuo pat pradžių norėjom žaisti", - tęsė kapitonas.

"Tuomet mūsų komandą buvo sukomplektuota taip, kad galėtų žaisti bet kokiomis sąlygomis, nors reikia pripažinti, jog žaisti buvo sudėtinga".

"De Santis ramiai ir draugiškai bendravo su žaidėjais".

Del Piero taip pat pažymėjo, jog per visą savo karjerą iš aikštės buvo išsiųstas tik du kartus ir vieną kartą jį išsiuntė De Santis.

Kaltintojai "Juventus" kapitoną klausinėjo apie 2004/05 sezono rungtynes su "Inter", po kurių peržiūrėjus vaizdo pakartojimą, buvo suspenduotas Zlatanas Ibrahimovičius.

"Tiesa, kad De Santis nenubaudė Ibros, tačiau tai tik parodo, kad galima panaudoti vaizdo pakartojimus ir nubausti žaidėją. Dėl šios bausmės Zlatanas turėjo praleisti kovą su "Milan" dėl Scudetto".

"Mums tai buvo didelis smūgis. Jeigu jis būtų iškart nubaustas, tuomet Ibra nebūtų praleidęs tų rungtynių".

Del Piero labai aiškiai išdėstė savo nuomonę dėl Calciopoli skandalo.

"Visos komandos, kurios tuo laikotarpiu laimėjo čempionatą, sąžiningai nusipelnė Scudetto ir "Juventus" taip pat".

"2006-aisiais užėmėm pirmą vietą su 91 tašku. Daug įvarčių įmušiau aš, taip pat Zlatanas Ibrahimovičius ir Davidas Trezeguet. Ne teisėjai mums pergales dovanojo, o mes patys jas iškovojom".

"Statiska rodo, kad mes retai mušdavome įvarčius iš vienuolikos metrų baudinių. Tuo metu mūsų komandoje buvo 9 žaidėjai, kurie žaidė 2006 m. Pasaulio Čempionato finale tarp Italijos ir Prancūzijos. Turėjom čempionų komandą", - užbaigė Del Piero.
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Post by Pinturicchio » 2010 10 20 6:53 pm

Tai kokia anglija td korumpuota, de jongo net vaizdo perziurejimas neima, lauzo kojas i sveikata
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Post by Requiem » 2010 10 20 8:02 pm

Visos didžiosios lygos mažiau ar daugiau korumpuotos. Jeigu lygoj yra bent du lyderiaujantis klubai, kurie yra vienodo pajėgumo, tuomet automatiškai dėl konkurencingumo prasideda įvairūs nešvarūs žaidimai.
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Post by Requiem » 2010 11 19 4:08 pm

Gerai čia Bergamo, jei taip ir toliau, tuomet Moračiui šikna svilt pradės :up:
Former referee designator Paolo Bergamo alleges Inter made the most phonecalls during Calciopoli, but it was Juventus and Luciano Moggi who were punished on one call during the orginal sports trial in 2006.

Bergamo, who has been a witness in the current Calciopoli 2 trial at the Tribunal of Naples has revealed a number of calls went missing in 2006 - something that has come to light in the current trial.

He alleges that Juventus were convicted on one phone involving the then sports director Luciano Moggi.

Bergamo also claims it was Inter who allegedly used and abused a system of communication designed by the FIGC to keep relations between clubs and referees above board.

Bergamo told Radio Power Station: "It was a moment when we were asked to create a tranquil situation for referees.

"The Federation (FIGC) gaves us a telephone which they used to pay for and they knew all the statements.

"Our phone numbers were given to all the clubs, and they all used to call us.

"At the time we were accused of speaking too much, but today clubs moan that we have closed up.

"The AIA (Italian referees association) proposed that referees must not speak with anyone, but then no-one liked that proposal.

"I think they tried to create a climate of tranquility for referees before matches to help referees.

"At the time (2006) they considered it was not something to be done, but this is not the truth.

"At the time Farsopoli (Calciopoli) broke out, they showed just one call as evidence regarding myself and Moggi. All the others were hidden.

"But, I used to speak with everyone. In particular I used to speak with Inter because they never used to win back then, and they always used to moan."
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Post by Pinturicchio » 2010 11 19 6:20 pm

Norejau sita pakopint, bet neijungtas buvau i foruma :D
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Post by Requiem » 2010 11 19 6:51 pm

Kažin kodėl tau pastoviai reikia prisijunginėt.. Kai įvedinėji prisijungimo duomenis, pažymi varnelę "Įsiminti"?
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Post by Pinturicchio » 2010 11 20 8:47 am

I pagrindini saita visad automatiskai prijungia, o forume automatiskai prijungia ir atjungia, as nk cia daryt negaliu :D tik laukt kol vel prisijungs :D
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